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Post by karpol on Jun 6, 2009 19:22:59 GMT 8
hindi naman sa bgong coach ang reason kng bkt nwawala ung mga players..... na veterans nila
dhil may policy cla ng hangang 28 y/o lng cla pwd maglaro
pero my execption pag mgaling at wla pang nadedevelop na mga bata kht 30 y/o kna pwd kp maglaru sa NT nla
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Post by destroyer on Jun 8, 2009 12:24:05 GMT 8
i was channel surfing last sat. and was able to view the sked of solar sports for june at wala ngang montreux volley masters sayang...meron silang volleyball coverage pero beach v-ball lang w/c is the avp crocs yung balls sports channels also covers this. any way the montreux volley masters will start tomorrow parang walang pag-asa na makita ko ito unless may eurosport channel pero wala kami nun sa cable namin ang pag-asa ko na lang ay dubai sports ang mag cover nito ang problema puro naman arabic ang salita at graphics he he eh wala english sub-titles pero sana i cover ito ng dubai sports...
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Post by destroyer on Jun 8, 2009 13:08:27 GMT 8
regarding nga pala dun sa pinost ni destroyer mtagal tgal na ung na apoint ung bgong coaches ng russia men at womens.ehehe kea cla nag apoint ng bgo kc nagresign ung coach na c giovani caprara dhil sa very very very disappoitning na nagyari s knilang team nong 08 olympics.. d man lang cla nkabot ng Top 4 for the first time since nagkaroon ng vbol sa olympics.... from 1964-2004 except 1984 olympics// ay plagi cla nanalo ng Gold o di Kaya Silver nung 1996 cla lng d nakakuha ng medal pero nasa top 4 cla nun kea 2loi nag resign ung caprara dahil din sa pressure shre lng pow yes this is true, na matagal na nga ito after pa ng olympics nag bago ng coach ang russian after caprara resigned from the natl. team may nabasa ako na he was fuming mad daw i don't know if this was true na may attitude probs daw ang mga players nya na di daw sila sanay mag laro ng umaga at wala pa silang energy na mag laro...i think this happened noong first game nila sa olympics kalaban nila italy at natalo sila ang match nila nun ay 10:00am they were complaining of the time kaya ganun talo sila although sokolova denied this pero i think isa rin sa nagpatalo sa kanila yung system ng coach nila pero nagdududa din ako kasi si caprara na yung coach nila when they won in the world championshipS sa japan last 2006 tinalo nila brazil 3-2 sabi ng mga tao sa pex and i quote "I think Caprara, being Italian, was trying to change the Russian style of playing to how it is done in Italy (Quick open hits, quick middles, quick opposite attacks). But he(and the girls) obviously choked. And refresh my memory, but there's no Russian playing in the Italian league right now. What I would have hoped is that he should've taught better serve-receive defense (Italy is soo d**n good at this). And of course, setting. But oh, no crying over spilt milk. Damage has been done. I hope the next coach will be Russian. I don't know with the Montreux Volley Masters, but the "new look" of the Russian team will be seen come July in World Grand Prix. (Merku is pretty ) this is the reaction of fripp from PEX... so there it goes after ng Oympics nag iba na sila ng coach at ang napili ay si Vadim Pankov para makapasok sa GRand Prix this July and Aug. at nag laro pa si Gamova dun sa qualifying round na yun so baka may pag-asa na makalaro pa si Gamova sa Grand Prix last time napanood ko sa sya sa INdesit Champions League playing for Dinamo Moscow pero natalo sila sa finals ng Bergamo team from Italy...Pero for the Grand Prix nagpalit uli sila ng coach na si Vladimir Kuzyutkin for the women's at si Daniele Bagnoli for the men's hmmm Italian na naman (this is for the men's competion which is known as World League) kung di nagpalit ng coach ang russian men's national team ay pagkapareho pa sana ng first name ang both coaches ng men's at women's national team ang former coach kasi ng men's national team ay si Vladimir Alekno... |
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Post by karpol on Jun 8, 2009 16:09:22 GMT 8
oo nga saw dhil sa attitude daw pero s tingin ko responsibility ng coach na imotivate nia players nia nung 08 olympics mukang wlang gana ang russian team wla dam motivation,, at ill prepared ang team nila... khit bumalik pa c artamonova (Estes)
sbi nga ni Sheilla Castro para daw may something within sa knla parong ayaw nila maglaro..refering to russia
isang tao lng ang may keang magmotivate sa knla non
C Nikolai Karpol ang ex Coach ng Russia cguro klala niu xia?
ang Howling Bear..
at pinipilit ni Caprara ang low and fast sets
na di sanay ang russia dun
sanay sila ng SKY HIGH BALL na naging sistema ng Russia for almost 20
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Post by destroyer on Jun 8, 2009 16:36:02 GMT 8
of course the legendary Nikolai Karpol sinong di makakakilala sa kanya grabe itong dating coach i remember him sinisigawan nya si sokolova olympics ata yun at tapos sumasagot si sokolova sa kanya...sanay kasi ang russia sa high ball sets eh ang problema dun kung magaling ang blockers at basang basa ang play at tapos magaling na libero/floor defense ang katapat...look at the brazilians mabibilis ang play nila at i think shiela castro si undoubtedly the best back row attacker right now. at di na ksi uso yung high ball sets na yan eh...pabillisan na ngayon para mahirapan ang mga blockers ng opponents...
and ngayon parang humina na rin sina sokolova at artamonova (now estes) based from previous matches that i saw lalo na mung atlanta 96 olympics ang lakas-lakas nya pero sa last olympics '08 medyo humina na sila yung tatlong yun main offensive threat ng russia sokolova at estes medyo humina na si gamova lang yung malakas. di rin kalakasan yung middle attacker nila na si merkoluva she has the height pero di mo rin maasahan at setter nila na si marina seshenina di rin masyadong maganda na mag create ng mga plays...hope i spelled their names correctly...
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Post by castor on Jun 8, 2009 20:12:05 GMT 8
bakit ba kasi pinalitan si nikolai karpol? nasan naba kasi sina tischtenko at belikova? pero malaki nga ang hinina ng russia lalo na ni chachkova.
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Post by B-Quick -02- on Jun 8, 2009 21:10:39 GMT 8
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Post by karpol on Jun 8, 2009 21:24:46 GMT 8
kea po nawala si karpol dahil nagretired sii after 04 olympics
since 1979-1982,1988-2004.. sia ang naging coach
si tischenko retired na after 04 olympics at kasisilang lng sa baby boy
si belikova ndi na sumali sa NT nung nwala si Karpol
pati si Plotnkova Tebenekhina,Chukanova, mga main core ng russia dti,, malay ko kng bkt cla nag retire bata bata pa sila..cguro loyal cla kay karpol or ayaw nla nang bgong coach
To Castor
i respect your opinion pero Dun effective ang Russia sa High Ball because of their height at might .. kundi dahil dun di sila naging world number 1 dti... sbi nga ng mga coaches maglro tayo ng sariling atin wag tayong sumabay o gumaya sa iba..ung ang sa akin..tingnan mo nangyari nung 04 olympics kahit Silver lng Cla
nkarating cla ng Finals na Puro Gamova-Sokolova-Gamova-Sokolova ang Sets... at Puro High Ball sa Open un..
as to Sokolova Gamova and Estes.. as time pass by tlgang mag iiba ung play mo.. Estes after near career ending injury buti pa at naglaru pa xia sa Uralochka kung sang galing ang mga Superstar ng Russia at nkuha ulit sa NT...si gamova halatang parang wlang gana nung olympics she's not in Her bEst form pati c sokolova
si Sheshenina naman mas nagimprove sia kesa nung unang ko siang nakita nung 04 Olympics..pero bilib ako sa kanya lalo na nong 04 olympics grabe yung gnawa nia para sa edad niang 19 at that time.. at first International Competion kung san ay starting setter sia
High Ball sa Open o Running yung ang naging play nag Russia for 20 yrs pwera lng nung 88 Olympics .....
cguro kahit hangang ngayon mas Effective Pa rin ang ganung system sa Kanila
Undoublty na c karpol one of the Best Coaches of all time ..gumawa sia ng VBOl superstars.....
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Post by castor on Jun 8, 2009 21:55:28 GMT 8
karpol you got the wrong person, si destroyer ang nagpost nung tungkol sa shift ng style of play ng russia.
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Post by deejay_05 on Jun 8, 2009 21:57:04 GMT 8
Nikolai Karpol was named FIVB Coach of the Year in 1989 and 1991, and the best coach of the 1990 Volleyball World Championships. Wiki...
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Post by deejay_05 on Jun 8, 2009 22:05:36 GMT 8
From USA Volleyball website: Volleyball players Ana Moser, Holly Mc Peak and Coach Karpol are among the awardees...
HOLYOKE, Mass. (May 15, 2009) – The Volleyball Hall of Fame announced today the names of six volleyball greats who will be inducted as the Class of 2009 into its hallowed halls on Oct. 30 in Holyoke, Mass., the sport’s birthplace.
The newest induction class consists of Ana Beatriz Moser of Brazil, Ivan Bugaenkov and Nikolai Karpol of Russia, Paul Libaud of France, Holly McPeak of the United States and Siegfried Schneider of Germany. Libaud was selected as an administrator, Karpol was honored in the coach category and the four remaining individuals were selected as players.
“The six members selected for the 2009 Volleyball Hall of Fame show a remarkable distinction of success in the sport of volleyball,” said Doug Beal, co-chair of the Volleyball Hall of Fame Selection Committee. “This induction class exemplifies diversity among represented countries and gender in areas of administrative leadership, coaching and both indoor and beach disciplines. This group continues to expand the excellence already inducted into the Volleyball Hall of Fame.”
With the Class of 2009, the Volleyball Hall of Fame showcases its worldwide theme of recognizing the top individuals within the sport. Russia will have its ninth individual enshrined into the Hall, while Brazil will have its fourth inductee. Germany and France are having their first countrymen inducted into the Volleyball Hall of Fame. A total of 17 different countries are represented in the Volleyball Hall of Fame with at least one inductee.
“As the Hall continues to become more internationally focused, we are delighted to showcase the talents of this class and help recognize the sport’s best players, coaches and leaders,” Volleyball Hall of Fame President David Casey said.
For additional information on attending the 2009 Volleyball Hall of Fame induction ceremony, contact the Volleyball Hall of Fame at info@volleyhall.org.
Ana Beatriz Moser (Brazil)
Despite being short in stature (1.85 meters), Ana Beatriz Moser is considered one of the greatest attackers of all time. She played in three Olympic Games (1988, 1992, 1996) and helped Brazil to the bronze medal at the 1996 Olympic Games, marking her country’s first-ever medal in the Olympic Games after losing in the 1992 Olympic Games bronze-medal match. Using a powerful jump serve, Moser was tabbed as the Best Server at the 1992 Olympic Games. She helped Brazil capture its first-ever FIVB World Championship medal with a silver at the 1994 event after leading her country to that season’s FIVB World Grand Prix. Moser and Brazil added a silver medal at the 1995 FIVB World Cup. She continued playing for the Brazilian National Team through the 1999 FIVB World Cup as she attempted to a four-time Olympian. However, she retired after the 1999 tournament due to a knee injury that also nearly cost her a chance to compete in the 1996 Olympic Games.
Ivan Bugaenkov (Latvia)
Ivan Bugaenkov, a Latvia native but a competitor for the Soviet Union, was a star on the Soviet Union (USSR) teams that captured back-to-back Olympic gold medals, the first at the inaugural Olympic volleyball competition in 1964 at Tokyo and the second in 1968 at Mexico City. At the Tokyo Olympics, the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia tied with identical 8-1 record, but the USSR’s 25-5 set record was better than Czech silver medalist’s 26-10 set record. In addition, USSR won the head-to-head match with a 15-7 score in the fifth-set tiebreaker. In Mexico City, the Soviets had to recover from a first match loss to the USA to win the gold. Bugaenkov also starred on the USSR teams that won the World Championship in 1960 and 1962, and the European Championship in 1967. He was honored with the USSR Honored Master of Sport in 1964.
Nikolai Karpol (Russia)
Nikolai Karpol, the former USSR/Russian women's volleyball coach, is considered to be one of the most successful and long-serving international coaches in the history of the game. Known as “The Howling Bear,” Karpol retired from the post of national team coach after leading the Russian women to the silver medal in the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens. His USSR/Russian teams accumulated over the years two Olympic gold medals (1980, 1988) and two Olympic silver medals (1992, 2000), a gold medal at the FIVB World Championship in 1990, three FIVB World Championship bronze medals (1994, 1998, 2002), three FIVB World Grand Prix titles (1997, 1999, 2002) and eight times European championships (1977, 1979, 1989, 1991, 1993, 1997, 1999 & 2001). Karpol was elected Coach of the year by the FIVB in 1989 and 1991.
Paul Libaud (France)
After holding the position of president of the French Volleyball Federation from 1945-1947, Paul Libaud was elected the first president of the Federation Internationale de Volleyball (FIVB) at its founding Congress in 1947 in Paris, and served in that role until 1984 – a total of 37 years. He is credited with growing the FIVB from its original 13 founding members to over 150 members in 1984, while starting the Men’s World Championship in 1949 and adding the Women’s World Championship in 1952. He is also credited with getting volleyball on the Olympic Games schedule commencing in Tokyo in 1964. The charismatic Libaud enlisted the services of numerous world leaders in various FIVB roles that promoted volleyball and resulted in the FIVB being one of the great sport federations when he retired in 1984. On his retirement, he was awarded the International Olympic Committee’s Olympic Order and given the FIVB title President Emeritus. Libaud died at the age of 89 on April 2, 1994.
Holly McPeak (United States)
Holly McPeak, a three-time beach volleyball Olympian for the United States, competed in the first three Olympic Games events for the discipline – 1996, 2000 and 2004. She earned the Olympic bronze medal in 2004 with partner Elaine Youngs after consecutive fifth-place finishes with Nancy Reno in 1996 and Misty May-Treanor in 2000. She holds 72 career beach titles, including 19 FIVB titles, two FIVB Grand Slam events titles and 53 domestic titles. In 2002, McPeak became the first woman worldwide to surpass $1 million career earnings and retired in May 2009 with over $1.5 million in career earnings. She was named the MVP in three different USA leagues, along with being an eight-time Best Defensive Player of the Year in those three leagues.
Siegfried Schneider (Germany)
As one of its veteran players, Siegfried Schneider sparked the German Democratic Republic (DDR or East Germany) team to the silver medal at the 1972 Olympic Games. East Germany defeated the Soviet Union during the semifinals of the 1972 Olympic Games, but lost its chance for the gold medal with a four-set loss to Japan. Schneider played a key role in East Germany winning its first-ever FIVB World Cup in 1969 and its first-ever FIVB World Championship in 1970 with a dramatic five-set win over Bulgaria. During the 1968 Olympic Games, he helped East Germany to a fourth-place finish in which he played all nine matches. East Germany was 6-3 in the round robin format at the 1968 Olympic Games.
ABOUT THE VOLLEYBALL HALL OF FAME
The Volleyball Hall of Fame, incorporated in 1978, is a nonprofit organization dedicated to honoring the great men and women of the sport, and the promotion of volleyball worldwide. Prior to 2009, a total of 88 individuals have been enshrined into the Volleyball Hall of Fame, which is located in the birthplace of the sport. The 24th enshrinement event, including Hall of Famers 89 through 94, will take place at the Hall of Fame at 444 Dwight St. in Heritage State Park on Oct. 30, 2009.
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Post by castor on Jun 8, 2009 22:07:53 GMT 8
kea po nawala si karpol dahil nagretired sii after 04 olympics since 1979-1982,1988-2004.. sia ang naging coach si tischenko retired na after 04 olympics at kasisilang lng sa baby boy si belikova ndi na sumali sa NT nung nwala si Karpol pati si Plotnkova Tebenekhina,Chukanova, mga main core ng russia dti,, malay ko kng bkt cla nag retire bata bata pa sila..cguro loyal cla kay karpol or ayaw nla nang bgong coach thanks for the info karpol! this also happened t brazil after marco mota tooks over the reins of the brazilian wvt. yung core group nung team ni bernardinho rezende opted not to play also except for karin. ang bulong bulungan eh di daw nila kasundo si coach marco mota. |
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Post by castor on Jun 8, 2009 22:12:50 GMT 8
yey! i love ana moser, she was one of my favorites in the brazil wvt! good for her! i love her intensity esp. when her team is up against cuba! (these teams really hated each others guts back then. grabe nagbugbugan pa sila sa locker room ng cuba dahil grabe talaga magtrashtalking ang cuba dati!)
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Post by jodaman on Jun 9, 2009 10:47:11 GMT 8
very interesting, guys! i'm really, really happy to see a thread such as this lively and all. i didn't know gamova isn't playing now for the national team, but with sokolva gone, i'm not sure about what their chances will be. safronova is good in receiving but she's not as powerful and as effective as estes or gamova. the other gals (fateeva, pasynkova, makhno, gorshkova (if she's drafted back), etc.) weren't simply honed to be the next estes or gamova. if godina is there, then well and good, pero ang bano-bano niya sa floor defense. but who on earth can replace sokolova as opposite hitter?? gorsh, maybe their only hope in their style of play will be middle blockers merkulova, borodakova, and that red-headed gal. belikova...hmm...she's still pretty young, but she doesn't stand out to me as an offensive weapon, unlike tishchenkova, who is almost too old to play (but hey, irina kirilova, caprara's wife and assistant coach, came out of retirement to play professionally in russia again...) as per caprara's case, it is said that he did not gel all that well with the gals (language barrier and difference in systems of plays). the gals weren't very sad when they didn't make it to the semis actually dahil sa bad trip kay coach nila. yes, he tried to change even the receiving pattern (two outside hitters, plus libero), switching the positions of sokolova and gamova just for that sake (but when you see them rotate up front, they go back to their hitting positions). i think it's a pity that daimi ramirez has retired. i really don't get it. she's still young. hindi kaya nag-defect siya sa ibang bansa?  i have confidence on calderon, carcases and yanelis santos though. i want to see the new chinese team! one article up there indicated that wang yi mei is playing a new position. does anyone what it is? and was chen zhong he sacked? did somebody just say that takinutsa is already retired?? bakeeeeeet??? i hope fofao isn't. hmp! why isn't italy in the tournament??? and puerto rico...how did they get in? hindi ba't three slots lang ang allowed from norceca? anyhoo, i think brazil will win with either usa or china in second. japan next. the netherlands, germany and poland have a good chance of outranking russia. then the dominican republic, korea and thailand. thailand may even beat korea too. |
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Post by destroyer on Jun 9, 2009 10:53:21 GMT 8
yes maganda nga ang discussion dito marami din kasing mahilig manood ng intl competitions...BTY start na ngayon ng Montreux Volley Masters so sad walang mag co cover nito dito kahit solar wala...siguro sa eurosport channel lang pero yung eurosport di kine-carry ng cable provider namin...
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i have confidence on calderon, carcases and yanelis santos though.