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Post by bschem on Aug 25, 2009 13:35:38 GMT 8
ah setter pala si dani lins.
kala ko eh opposite hitter.
tanong lang si gamova ba eh open oh opposite?
naguluhan ako sa kanya eh.
pinanood ko na lang sa youtube to.
and come to think of it, pede naman siyang maging middle, 6'8 banaman eh.
pangit yung running hit nung isang teammate niya eh.
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Post by deejay_05 on Aug 25, 2009 13:46:18 GMT 8
ah setter pala si dani lins. kala ko eh opposite hitter. tanong lang si gamova ba eh open oh opposite? naguluhan ako sa kanya eh. pinanood ko na lang sa youtube to. and come to think of it, pede naman siyang maging middle, 6'8 banaman eh. pangit yung running hit nung isang teammate niya eh. si Gamova, parang both siya eh..... nung kalaro nila Japan...i've seen her play both open and kwatro.... |
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Post by karpol on Aug 25, 2009 14:24:58 GMT 8
Opposite si Gamova sa Starting Six....
pag makadikit sila ni Kosheleva,, OH ang Palo ni Gamova si Kosheleva OPP..
pag nag service na ni Kosheleva eh di papasok na si Makarova or Naumova kasi ka diagonal si Kosheleva eh si Gamova nasa rotation pa sa harapan mag Opp na si Gamova ganun po..
pero meron instance na Opp sia starting six pero ang lhat ng palo nia Open
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Post by bschem on Aug 25, 2009 15:27:33 GMT 8
well okay.
bakit kaya di na lang siya mag-middle no?
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Post by karpol on Aug 25, 2009 16:01:26 GMT 8
Well Tanungin Mo na lang Si Coach Nikolai Karpol..kng bkt sia gnawang opener..
well mas maganda sa kanya ang pagiging Open Hitter kesa MB...
sa Mb kailangan maganda ang reception para mkapag set sa gitna or running,, pag Open kahit mganda or pangit ang reception mbibigay mo sa Opener..
buti ginawang opener si gamova kesa gitna powerful kasi si gamova.. i fairness kay gamova kahit ganun sia katangkad mabilis ang kilos nia pag compare mo sia Gamova kay Haneef. mas mabilis at mas magaling pa mag block si gamova kesa kanya.at mas mataas reach ni gamova....
kasi common na sa ibang teams pag lagpas 190cm Gitna...
si Gamova lang ang Opener na 200cm+
si haneef kasi Opp
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Post by jodaman on Aug 26, 2009 7:51:59 GMT 8
ang dating sa akin ay opposite hitter ang designation ni gamova, pero pag nag-rotate na siya sa harap, zone 4 ang hawak niya. the designated outside hitter would then take zone 2. mukhang mas komportable kasi siya as outside hitter e. pero depende rin minsan kung hindi rin gaanong magaling pumalo sa zone 2 and designated outside hitter. pag gano'n ang kaso, si gamova ang pupuwesto sa zone 2. pag nag-receive naman ang russia, at nasa zone 2 si gamova, doon siya papalo. pero pag nasa backrow na siya, she attacks like a real opposite hitter--sa zones 1 at 6 ang sakop niya. (this is much like wang yi mei's, and a little bit like miyuki takahashi's cases).
about gamova not being a middle blocker...ang style kasi ni karpol talaga ay gawing powerful hitting position ang left wing, thereby making the outside hitters receive the bulk of the sets (as in at least 85%) . the middle blockers would only be secondary hitters, and therefore they don't need to be as powerul hitters as the outside hitters. they need to be good in blocking though. primitive talaga ang style na 'yon kasi kaya nga tinawag na middle blockers ang mga middle blockers dahil ang trabaho lang nila noon pang panahon ni mahoma ay mag-block. now in the russian system, gamova doesn't also need to receive kaya ok lang na higante siya.
the only exception of course is yulia merkulova, the middle blocker who is as tall as gamova. she looks a bit like thaisa menezes. lol
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Post by jodaman on Aug 26, 2009 9:03:23 GMT 8
'nga pala, mga prens, what are your impressions of korea? they've gotten taller--taller than the japanese! they hit harder now, but they seem to be less organized and scrappy than they used to be.
naaalala ba ninyo noon na tuwing pagkatapos ng match, que talo o panalo, umuupo ng pa-ikot ang mga koreano sa gitna ng court? ang dating pa nga sa akin ay nagdarasal sila. bakit kaya itinigil na nila...
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Post by jodaman on Aug 26, 2009 9:06:25 GMT 8
prior to the beijing games, naging outside hitter rin si haneef, tapos si metcalf ang nag-opposite hitter. Well Tanungin Mo na lang Si Coach Nikolai Karpol..kng bkt sia gnawang opener.. well mas maganda sa kanya ang pagiging Open Hitter kesa MB... sa Mb kailangan maganda ang reception para mkapag set sa gitna or running,, pag Open kahit mganda or pangit ang reception mbibigay mo sa Opener.. buti ginawang opener si gamova kesa gitna powerful kasi si gamova.. i fairness kay gamova kahit ganun sia katangkad mabilis ang kilos nia pag compare mo sia Gamova kay Haneef. mas mabilis at mas magaling pa mag block si gamova kesa kanya.at mas mataas reach ni gamova.... kasi common na sa ibang teams pag lagpas 190cm Gitna... si Gamova lang ang Opener na 200cm+ si haneef kasi Opp ... |
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Post by karpol on Aug 26, 2009 10:59:01 GMT 8
I know but when haneef and metcalf was both on court..parang Kosheleva and Gamova ang play nila.......
lalo na nong 05WGP
merkoulova ang original position nia is Opp daw talaga...
pero ginawa siang MB.....
i agree to da explanation of Jodaman...
Ang style ni Karpol is to Make the Outside hitters powerful....
kasi nagsimula yan nun nwala na si Kirillova
Nikulina COpy her Moves down to the Bone..pero wla yung ano (hindi ko maexplain) parang touch or spark katulad ni Kirillova
tapos natalo pa sila nung 92OG..
simula 93 puro Oustide ang play ni Karpol
panuorin niyo 94 WCH..tingnan niyo ang laro ng russia..matutuwa kayo
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Post by jodaman on Aug 26, 2009 13:56:42 GMT 8
watchoomean? opposite pa rin ang designation ni haneef? ang alam ko, ka-diagonal pa rin ni metcalf si berg (setter), at nag-re-receive si haneef. minsan, ipinapasok 'yong isang defense specialist nila (si davis yata) pag nahihirapan na siyang (haneef) mag-receive.
i've seen a match with kirillova as setter. nagulat talaga ako. parang italy ang naglalaro. halos laspag si ogienko sa kakapalo.
bakit naman gano'n si karpol? parang na-trauma sa pagkawala ni kirillova. dapat nag-train na lang siya ng iba na maging katulad niya.
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Post by roberto2009 on Aug 26, 2009 14:46:26 GMT 8
tanong lang po. i`ve watched some of the games from the recently concluded 2009 grnd prix, pero noticed ko lahat ng players yata ng US are new except kay davis (libero). wla naba yung team that won silver in beijing olympics? or team B nila `to? na-miss ko lang kasi mga power spikes nina glass at logan.
salamat po.
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Post by karpol on Aug 26, 2009 16:09:28 GMT 8
_jodaman ayun nga si Nikulina nga trinain niya,,, hangang buto nga kinopya, ang galaw ni kirillova,,,,kaso kahit Copyangcopya ang galaw parang wlang spark alam mo yun yung ganung effect
kaya sila natalo nung 92OG
_Robert NEW COACH NEW PLAYERS..Coach mchuetion(i 4got the corect spelling)wants to try new players
ive watched it USA-KOR...
nag subbed si Hannef kay Collymore
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Post by jodaman on Aug 27, 2009 7:38:02 GMT 8
McCutcheon^
nasa personality na pala 'yon. pero sana trinain pa rin niya sila gracheva, vassilevskaia, chukanova at sheshenina na maging katulad ni kirillova, kahit papaano.
robert, i think it isn't the B team. it's their main team.
bumalik naman sila metcalf at sykora sa team na 'yon. pero sa tingin ko ibalik nila sila kim glass, tayyiba haneef at logan tom dahil hindi pa naman sila sobrang tanda. kahit si lindsay berg e.
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Post by karpol on Aug 27, 2009 10:37:15 GMT 8
_jodaman ala nga pag asa kung yung nga si Nikulina(hangaang buto galaw ni kirillova eh ginaya pero ala pa rin epek)veteran0
hindi umubra
eh yung pang mga bata at that time hindi rin eepekto,,,kaya nag stratigize na lang siang ng bagong formulang play
ang up to bubong high set sa open hitters
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Post by swimbod21 on Aug 28, 2009 3:47:46 GMT 8
McCutcheon^ nasa personality na pala 'yon. pero sana trinain pa rin niya sila gracheva, vassilevskaia, chukanova at sheshenina na maging katulad ni kirillova, kahit papaano. robert, i think it isn't the B team. it's their main team. bumalik naman sila metcalf at sykora sa team na 'yon. pero sa tingin ko ibalik nila sila kim glass, tayyiba haneef at logan tom dahil hindi pa naman sila sobrang tanda. kahit si lindsay berg e. Yup, it's their main team na talaga. Glass might comeback if ANTM diss her again LOL. I doubt Haneef reaching the olympics. Baka gawing bridge lang sya for qualifying tournaments. Haneef is not as powerful as she used to be ang laki na rin ng binagal nya. The same case with Tom. Matanda na si Tom and not as effective as before. Expect USA team tol feature more new faces straight from NCAA. Experimental talaga sila ngayon. Expect the names of Destinee Hooker (also high jump gold medalist in tracks NCAA), Hodge, Houston and more. Making them as a "team" will be the real challenge. Sino nga pala ang MVP sa GP? |
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